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Old 09-30-2013, 02:55 PM
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Default CARLTON 'SUPER 20' parallel throw-off snare - Help needed

Hi there
I have what I believe to be a Carlton Super 20 snare drum from the 60's which I'm in the process of restoring and I desperately need some help regarding the appropriate type of snare wire and how to fit it correctly.

I have read elsewhere that the Carlton Super 20 (which I believe it to be) uses a parallel throw-off snare which I am not too familiar with and I'm not entirely sure if the strainer etc is fully complete or if there are any parts missing. Here is a link to some images of the snare drum in question:

http://s374.photobucket.com/user/ban...?sort=6&page=1

Any input or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:25 AM
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Can't help, but it's really incredible snare!!

George.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: CARLTON 'SUPER 20' parallel throw-off snare - Help needed

Thanks George.
I'm just hoping that there is a member of this forum with some knowledge/experience of these vintage Carlton snares that can help me out here. I'm desperately trying to establish how the snare wire is fitted to this drum and if there are any parts missing.
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: CARLTON 'SUPER 20' parallel throw-off snare - Help needed

Ok, it has been disputed that this snare drum is not of the 'parallel throw-off' type but I still trying to find someone that has some knowledge of vintage Carlton drums.

I believe that there is some type of screw missing (see images 9 & 10) that is meant to pass through that hole and connects to the snare wire but I am unsure how this is done exactly or what this missing part even looks like, especially the end that would be housed within the clam itself.

And I assume that there is a roller bar absent from the butt plate (see image 14) which I'm guessing would resemble the type that is present on the throw-off side (see images 11 & 12 )?

I have made inquires on various forums hoping that someone could offer me some insight into to this matter and I have scoured the internet for any photos that could provide me with a visual reference, but my pursuits have so far been in vain.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:33 PM
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You might try the folks on the pipe band forum. Some Carlton knowledge there. http://www.pipebandsforum.com/

I am missing a similar roller bar on the throw end of a John Grey, and am figuring on taking the one off the butt plate and looking around some of the more esoteric hardware places. (Probably a lost cause given threading etc,). I will check back in if lucky.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:17 PM
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B C, see if this pic helps
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:25 PM
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Here's a link to a whole set for sale in London: http://hindleandheely.co.uk/vintage-...s-arbiter.html

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Old 10-16-2013, 08:31 PM
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You might try the folks on the pipe band forum. Some Carlton knowledge there. http://www.pipebandsforum.com/

I am missing a similar roller bar on the throw end of a John Grey, and am figuring on taking the one off the butt plate and looking around some of the more esoteric hardware places. (Probably a lost cause given threading etc,). I will check back in if lucky.
Thanks Patrick, I shall check out the forum and see if anyone can help.
Good luck with your hunting, keep us posted!
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:39 PM
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B C, see if this pic helps
Thanks rich, much appreciated.
I have seen a similar pic that confirmed for me that there was indeed a screw or something missing from that throw-off section. What I need to establish is what that 'screw' part actually consists of, what it looks like on the other end within that clam, and how the snare wire is attached.

Likewise, I need to find out how the snare wire is meant to attach on the opposite side of the drum.

Any ideas
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Default Re: CARLTON 'SUPER 20' parallel throw-off snare - Help needed

Just seeing this thread now. I have a similar carlton snare and have recently taken off the snares that came with it because I am desparately looking for a new strand myself. Here is a picture of what the snares look like on both ends that hold together by screws, very unique. The end with two holes have screws that kind of make them free floating with bolts within the butt plate. The long screw that is attached to the snare strand screws into the strainer hardware through a bolt on the other side and I will take a picture of that late on.






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