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Old 05-12-2018, 02:06 AM
R.Adam McHugh R.Adam McHugh is offline
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Default Removing old paint from wooden hoops...

Hi Gang,

It's been a while since I posted last, hope everyone's well and happy.

Anyone have some good ideas on how to remove old paint from wooden hoops without damaging the wood? Is a regular paint stripper too harsh?
The drum I'm trying to clean up is a Drouyn marching drum, which I think is from 1972, and the hoops have been painted white, albeit some time ago, and I suspect it's lead-based paint, going by the age of the drum.
Anyway, my plan is to get rid of the white, take them back to natural wood and then go over them with bees wax or some pine oil.

(Sorry about the poor lighting in the pics)

Any thoughts, Gentlemen?

Thanks,
R.A.M (Trev)
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: Removing old paint from wooden hoops...

Hi there over here in the UK i use nitromorse. Its a paint stripper. For a hoop i would brush it on all over outside in the back yard. Leave for about 20 mins then lightly use a scrapper to gently take off the first layer. Then go to next hoop and then the shell. Each time i take a layer off i then paint more stripper on shell or hoop. Its long smelly and can be bad on your skin wear gloves. Ive been stripping paint off nearly every brand of drums there is, mainly premier. Doing what you want needs time and patience as you want a natural wood finish. Dont use a blow torch as it will scorch. A hot air gun is fine but do it evenly and take your time. Plus i will mask off the interior unless you wanna strip entire drum shell. I prefer the stripper cause i find it easier to take layers off. Once finished i use warm soapy water to wash all residue off. Let shell/hoops dry out for a good few days then start sanding. On your drum and hoops that is a doddle of a job........sean

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Old 05-12-2018, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Removing old paint from wooden hoops...

With lead based paint like that.. I would avoid using spirits or stripper... Use sandpaper instead.. it is not a huge job... just work outdoors and use a mask if necessary.. start with 180 go to 400 and finish with fine steel wool..

( paint stripper/solvent or even turps will carry the diluted paint pigment into the grain and make your job more difficult )..

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Old 07-07-2018, 12:01 AM
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With lead based paint like that.. I would avoid using spirits or stripper... Use sandpaper instead.. it is not a huge job... just work outdoors and use a mask if necessary.. start with 180 go to 400 and finish with fine steel wool..

( paint stripper/solvent or even turps will carry the diluted paint pigment into the grain and make your job more difficult )..

Cheers
John
No John! Worse thing you can do with lead paint is sand it/vaporize it and put it into the air. Unless the mask being worn is rated to screen lead particles, regular paint masks won't do the trick. I'd wear a Hazmat suit if I was around anyone sanding lead paint! Read up on procedures for working with/removing lead paint.

NO sanding of lead paint please. Solvents and gloves/mask, and very careful disposal of any waste material produced.

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Old 05-13-2018, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Removing old paint from wooden hoops...

+1 with seantdrums, chemical stripper or heat gun. Lead should not be ingested or inhaled. Sanding lead paint creates airborne particles and should be avoided. Stripper will be faster and safer.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Removing old paint from wooden hoops...

Well as a wood working hobbyist... I don't like Fumes from stripper.. I don't like burned timber from heat guns... and I don't like timber grain ruined by gouging from scrapers etc... so I still prefer & recommend sanding for this particular job..

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Old 05-14-2018, 01:00 PM
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All valid points longjohn. I knew a professional wood worker who would only "sand". He did beautiful work. He is no longer with us due to lead poisoning. I guess it comes down to what is more important; a persons health and well being or a drum hoop.
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:24 PM
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So this guy died strictly from lead poisoning? How old was he?
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Old 05-14-2018, 07:39 PM
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Mid seventies. At the time he seemed like a "really" old man to me but mid seventies doesn't seem "really" old now. An old timer from the "no mask" days. Effects are cumulative and usually take years to develop. My statement was probably extreme and I know the job can be done safely in the right environment and with the proper protective gear. I merely felt it irresponsible to advise someone to sand lead based paint. No offense meant.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:31 PM
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I do respect your advice re safety Slingfan..

I also should be history by now... lived in lead painted homes and then lead painted everything that I ever built as a child... Worked 8 hour shifts for two years in a Lead sinker factory pouring molten lead into auto operating dies.. To top that off, I would make toys out of asbestos roofing using woodworking tools etc.. also wound steam pipes with asbestos whilst in the army and as a teen working on railway locomotives & boilers.. I do take more care now days... but back then knew no better (none of us did)..

I would use wet and dry sandpaper on the hoops .. rubber gloves and a bucket of water.. work outdoors... 1 hour & three Hail Marys..

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