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Old 06-21-2019, 10:37 AM
deansdrums59 deansdrums59 is offline
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Default Luddy guys: what is this????
I came into several Ludwig drums from a school auction and this was included. From several of the projects you all have helped me through in the past few years, this is my first true venture into fixing up Ludwigs.

Can you Ludwig aficionados save me some research and let me know what this is and what I need to put on it to fix it up to make it period correct. I've looked in the snare gallery and can't seem to find something similar. It appears to have a "transition" badge but embarrassed to say I'm not truly sure what that means.

I know I've come to the right place-so lay it on me Luddy guys! No such thing as too much information if you have the time to elaborate. Dean
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: Luddy guys: what is this????
Not a transition badge. Large keystone-Chicago ~'83-'84 per Rick Gier's book.
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:39 AM
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How many lugs are on this snare drum?
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:47 AM
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Snare has 10 lugs. Click image for larger version Name: IMG_5424.jpg Views: 85 Size: 86.3 KB ID: 125895
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Luddy guys: what is this????
I'm thinking lc403 Classic.
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Old 06-21-2019, 11:49 AM
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It has three holes for ?????
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:20 PM
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OddBall was really close on the ID. It's actually a L472 Rock/Concert snare.
The three holes are configured for the P-34 butt (paired with my favorite P-87 throw!!!).

EDIT: Configuring the snare with the P-87/P-32 would make it a L403.
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:29 PM
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OddBall was really close on the ID. It's actually a L472 Rock/Concert snare.
The three holes are configured for the P-34 butt (paired with my favorite P-87 throw!!!).

EDIT: Configuring the snare with the P-87/P-32 would make it a L403.
Actually, Ludwig made a typo with the L403. It should say it comes with the P85, not the P87.

During this time period, all P87 strainers were matched with the P34 butt. The P85 was matched with the P32. I have a 1961 Super Classic snare drum with the P87/P32 configuration, but this wasn't offered in the 80's.

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Old 06-21-2019, 12:43 PM
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Not a transition badge. Large keystone-Chicago ~'83-'84 per Rick Gier's book.
Yes, this is the very last Chicago badge. Off to Monroe NC soon afterwards.
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Old 06-21-2019, 01:12 PM
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It looks like a void got crushed tightening a lug too. that may or may not vibrate or hum.
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