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Old 06-29-2014, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: 70's Ludwig project.

I am with Purdie on this. The thermogloss maple look was never too inspiring to me. I did not really care for the look if Bonhom's thermogloss kit. Now a nicely restored TG kit is a fine thing but still a little pedestrian. My apologies in advance to those who own and love them. I tend to like any restored kit so I'll like those as well, but it wouldn't be my first choice.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:51 PM
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I have often wondered how oak with a nice brownish stain would look. Maple, oak, mahogany and cherry are all being considered because they are the least expensive. I could do a stain with a shaded lacquer for depth. I also wonder if it is time for a satin finish.
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:21 PM
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Jeff - follow the existing lay-up for the veneer! If it's (starting on the inside,) mahogany, poplar, maple... then add a maple veneer, if it's maple, poplar, mahogany... add a mahogany veneer. When you added an extra ply of mahogany to my vintage orphans it only served to warm up the sound of the drums in a really good way. There is something to be said for following the existing lay-up. It enhances, rather than alter, the existing sound of the drums. Introducing a third wood into the mix is a crap-shoot in terms of how it will affect the sound of the drum, it can't be predicted.

Food for thought.

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Old 07-03-2014, 03:08 PM
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Jeff - follow the existing lay-up for the veneer! If it's (starting on the inside,) mahogany, poplar, maple... then add a maple veneer, if it's maple, poplar, mahogany... add a mahogany veneer. When you added an extra ply of mahogany to my vintage orphans it only served to warm up the sound of the drums in a really good way. There is something to be said for following the existing lay-up. It enhances, rather than alter, the existing sound of the drums. Introducing a third wood into the mix is a crap-shoot in terms of how it will affect the sound of the drum, it can't be predicted.

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I like this logic. makes sense to me.
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:25 PM
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Jeff - follow the existing lay-up for the veneer! If it's (starting on the inside,) mahogany, poplar, maple... then add a maple veneer, if it's maple, poplar, mahogany... add a mahogany veneer. When you added an extra ply of mahogany to my vintage orphans it only served to warm up the sound of the drums in a really good way. There is something to be said for following the existing lay-up. It enhances, rather than alter, the existing sound of the drums. Introducing a third wood into the mix is a crap-shoot in terms of how it will affect the sound of the drum, it can't be predicted.

Food for thought.

John
This is coming from a guy that does LSD and dates a mannequin, lol!

Just kidding John, I will have to look at them again, have not been home for a couple weeks. I will say the zebra wood on the Ludwigs and the KOA on the Rogers turned out fine. I don't know if my ears could tell the difference between sound based on wood species, but I'm sure you are correct. Wood species and shell construction is what makes the drum, so John is absolutely correct.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:34 PM
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Jeff,
Take a look at some of the fantastic grain timbers that these guys are using... Really love some of the reds & darker veneers..
Just food for thought..

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Old 07-03-2014, 08:42 PM
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Jeff,
Take a look at some of the fantastic grain timbers that these guys are using... Really love some of the reds & darker veneers..
Just food for thought..

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Wow! I cant compete with those guys, they are way more advanced than I am. But your right, it gets the old wheels turning. Thing is, this kit was bought with re-sale in mind so I have to keep it simple.

The shells are maple,poplar, mahogany , by the way.
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:33 AM
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Do I dare and try something like the kit on the top of this Ludwig web page?

http://www.ludwig-drums.com/drumkits.php

Kinda scary,lol
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Old 07-25-2014, 01:49 PM
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Jeff - Go to the Stewart/McDonald website and look at the 'Sunburst' dye kits they sell to guitar builders! All of those great finishes, Tobacco Sunburst, Cherry Sunburst, etc. can be applied to drum shells. They also offer great clear-coat materials that you might want to look into.

http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and...ts_and_Stains/

That kind of finish is very do-able and I think it's about time somebody tried one out on a drum kit! Check it out, it's a real eye-opener for finish possibilities.

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Old 07-25-2014, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: 70's Ludwig project.

My fervent vote is for the satin finish you admired on the Gretsch kit in the "Let's see what you're currently playing!" thread...

Also loooove thermo gloss!

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