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Old 07-02-2014, 11:22 AM
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Default Ludwig Japan snare from estate ... any clue?

hi folks, I'm new here. I am a smalltime music producer and trying to acquire a few respectable options for drums at my studio, just skimming ebay and CL. I just bought this snare drum. As it's from an estate the owner has no real information about it. I was hoping that one of the gurus here might take a passing interest - I don't delude myself that it's very valuable, probably one of many similar japanese snares, however I gleaned from the internet that they can be of good player value when cleaned up. True?

EDIT: I'm really a know-nothing about drums, it took me a while to realize that this is most likely some other brand of snare that someone jury-rigged a Ludwig part onto. I would delete this thread but i can't figure out how. Oh well!

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Old 07-02-2014, 05:51 PM
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Hi Goldenrule and to the forum!

You're 100 percent correct that you have a MIJ snare drum with a Ludwig strainer, which is the P-83. The drum has no real value in and of itself. There are many MIJ snare drums that can sell for over $100, depending on originality and finish. I've got a few really cool MIJ drums in my collection! Since yours is in a very common color and also has extra holes, I'm not sure that it's worth much, or anything. However, the P-83 throw-off can easily sell for over $50!

Hope some of this was useful to you.

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Old 07-02-2014, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Ludwig Japan snare from estate ... any clue?

That snare (not the Ludwig strainer though) - was made by Pearl before 1968. Those lugs are quite rare. MIJ/Pearl but not seen very often at all.
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:19 PM
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Photo gone. Listing ended.
oh well.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:19 PM
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Photo gone. Listing ended.
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Click on the link and scroll down a little...You`ll see it...

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Old 07-02-2014, 09:59 PM
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The throw off is indeed a P83 but this one is from a Ludwig Standard snare and has the later logo stamped into it. Exactly the same as a 60s item but from a 70s model drum.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: Ludwig Japan snare from estate ... any clue?

Wow, thanks for taking an interest! I'll be interested to see how the drum sounds - if it's diggable for recording I'll keep it around, but if not perhaps I can check around to see if anyone is interested in the strainer.

Thanks again - Casey
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Ludwig Japan snare from estate ... any clue?

Nice drum, nice buy.

Nothing new to add about the provenance; yep, that's a P83, my favorite Ludwig strainer, and it's in great shape compared to most of the ones I see.

First thing to so is take the hoops and heads off, and rub some Feed-n-Wax on the bearing edges and inside of the drum. Those were made of thin lauan plywood, which gets brittle when it dries out. The Feed-n-Wax helps the wood be less brittle.

The drum should be a nice oddball addition to your studio's sound palette.

If you're handy with mechanical things, remove the strainer and throw it up on eBay. Any cheap replacement strainer will work fine for the drum and you'll probably come out ahead on the whole deal.

When I looked on eBay for P83's I couldn't find one for under $75.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:49 PM
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Great little drum nice p-83

As for those seldom seen lugs
in the boneyard here there are two old mij shells
one is a 12" red sparkle mounted tom
the other is a aqua blue sparkle snare drum
Both of them are wearing Norma badges

the mounted tom is club date/stage band style
using (one large center mounted lug) with longer tension rods

because of this, they are identical in size and shape to the snare drum
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Ludwig Japan snare from estate ... any clue?

You guys are an incredible knowledge trove! Starship Krupa I will take your advice about treatment of the drum and finding an alternate strainer - I'm sure this one could go to a better home.

Have a great 4th weekend everyone,
Casey
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