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Old 06-25-2016, 02:49 PM
EricP EricP is offline
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Mike has 600 more snare drums than I do

Anyhoo, sorry, felt I needed to say that. Mad respect Mike

I'm sort of collecting/borderline hoarding and hoping to NOT lose value, worst case break even when it comes time to deal everything away when I head into the home. 46 now so that won't be a few years yet, heh.

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Old 06-25-2016, 03:50 PM
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Prices are probably down because more sellers entered the market to meet the demand.

I remember seeing vintage kits in venues around Nashville in the late 90s and early '00s. Maybe that was when the vintage drum market took off, not sure. I think that's when Ludwig began making a resurgence in the drum market and C&C became popular.

It's my opinion that the buyers who pay retail or top dollar for vintage kits are typically not collectors, so new vintage-like kits compete for buyers. A new Classic Maple Ludwig kit can be had for $1800 shipped. A new Tama Superstar can be had for $500 shipped from Greenbrier.
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Old 06-25-2016, 04:58 PM
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I think people have become more disciplined at saying NO to a price they do not like.

I do believe I could unload at a profit. Some things not so much. Overall, yes.
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Old 06-26-2016, 05:15 AM
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Like Ploughman, I doubt what I have is worth less than it needs to be overall. Drum here, set there maybe, but overall no issues yet. I'm rather enjoying the lower prices at the moment, but not going crazy on the buy side either and only taking what I really like.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:02 PM
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So if I'm a US citizen vacationing in Canada how much of a hassle is it to transport drums in your car over the border?
Good question.. I'm not sure how our border duties would go about something like that, unless you claimed it as a gift for a relative, which should go smoothly.. However,i would assume they are thorough, which i can personally attest to, and would ask the typical questions, such as "are you profiting from this gift", or are you planning to perform and get paid for a performance", etc.. In that instance, i'm not sure how that would go down..

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Old 06-28-2016, 01:25 AM
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Unpopular opinion time. First, I'm from a younger generation than many people on this forum. So I wasn't doing the vintage drum thing during the height of the market that everyone refers to here, and I can't speak from that experience.

But, I have zero sympathy for hoarders and collectors when the market goes down. Drums are utilitarian things, they're not baseball cards. Their purpose is to be played, not to sit on a shelf with 50 other snare drums that get played in the home once every five years.

To each their own of course. People often collect things because it brings them joy, and I think that's wonderful. But as a working drummer who loves restoring old drums, I think it's awesome that the market is down. If the big time collectors have gotten out and it's just the players left, that's just fine by me. There's still money to be made in the short term by finding deals and fixing drums, anyway.
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Old 06-28-2016, 01:01 PM
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Unpopular opinion time. First, I'm from a younger generation than many people on this forum. So I wasn't doing the vintage drum thing during the height of the market that everyone refers to here, and I can't speak from that experience.

But, I have zero sympathy for hoarders and collectors when the market goes down. Drums are utilitarian things, they're not baseball cards. Their purpose is to be played, not to sit on a shelf with 50 other snare drums that get played in the home once every five years.

To each their own of course. People often collect things because it brings them joy, and I think that's wonderful. But as a working drummer who loves restoring old drums, I think it's awesome that the market is down. If the big time collectors have gotten out and it's just the players left, that's just fine by me. There's still money to be made in the short term by finding deals and fixing drums, anyway.
I can't disagree with you. However there are some who wold defend holding on to and protecting some real historic drums and drum sets from the ravages of naive ownership.
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Old 06-28-2016, 02:31 PM
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I can't disagree with you. However there are some who wold defend holding on to and protecting some real historic drums and drum sets from the ravages of naive ownership.
Yeah, I can understand that. Some things are museum pieces for sure, and deserve to be treated as such. But not your collection of half a dozen 7-line Dynasonics. The bar is way higher than that for me.

Even if I owned a Gladstone or a 20's Black Beauty, I would carefully gig with it. No question about it. Anything I no longer find myself actually using at least once a month I sell.
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