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Old 09-24-2018, 11:58 PM
LeftCoast_Drummer LeftCoast_Drummer is offline
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I mentioned that installing the Swivomatic receiver on the bass drum would not be sacrilege. In my not so humble opinion, placing a Swivo-equipped tom on a snare stand goes beyond sacrilege.
Interesting. What is your opinion on a Swivomatic tom or cymbal stand? I would think that drilling holes in 40+ year old virgin shell is much worse that putting one 13" tom on a snare stand.
To me, an early 70s Rogers butcher block 3 ply rering kit is the holy grail. It's my favorite sounding and looking kit ever made. I've looked for this exact kit for over a decade. I also happen to be a virgin bass snob which is not helping. I can't bring myself to fundamentally change the sound of my bass drum over using a snare stand.
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:41 AM
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I wouldn't be drilling any holes in that kick, that's just plain idiotic. Leedybdp has a few screws loose if he seriously thinks drilling a hole in a virgin kick is more acceptable than putting your tom on a snare stand.
Nice looking kit.

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Old 09-25-2018, 09:31 AM
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I wouldn't be drilling any holes in that kick, that's just plain idiotic. Leedybdp has a few screws loose if he seriously thinks drilling a hole in a virgin kick is more acceptable than putting your tom on a snare stand.
Nice looking kit.
You are no doubt aware of what opinions are like. If no one told you that a vintage-correct tom mount was properly installed last week by a person in Omaha, or installed when the drums were sold by Frank's Drum Shop in Chicago, or was on the drum when it was made in the factory, you would not know where and when the mount was installed. Talking about screws....just what the hell is a "virgin" bass drum? I suppose that, according to you, a minimum of forty holes in the shell to install the lugs, the spurs, and the breather/badge hole don't really violate the virginity of the drum shell. Your opinion is just that--your opinion.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:08 AM
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Don't play the clueless card, you know exactly what one means when they say virgin kick. I didn't make it up, it's a term that's been around for a long time.
It sounds like you would not inform a potential buyer about any modifications if you were selling a kit.
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Old 09-26-2018, 08:42 AM
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I would definitely mention that the PROPER tom mount was PROPERLY installed after the bass drum left the factory. And, I'm not playing any type of card relative to the virginity hocum that some folks obsess about. The MOUNTED tom's "virginity" was already violated when it was outfitted with a receiver for a tom mount. You are free to prefer your drums configured to your wishes. I choose to have my mounted tom mounted to my bass drum even if I need to have the proper mounting hardware properly installed by a knowledgeable and competent person.
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:16 AM
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I'm not anal about an all original kit ot it being in pristine condition, I'm not that guy. In fact, I prefer kits that have issues, they're not only cheaper, but you can gig with them and not worry about messing up your prized possession.
But I wouldn't be drilling new holes or modyfing a perfectly good drum that would certainly de-value it. Of course you can do what you want to your drums, but you shouldn't be giving bad advice to those who may be new to the vintage drum world.
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Old 09-27-2018, 12:40 AM
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I would definitely mention that the PROPER tom mount was PROPERLY installed after the bass drum left the factory. And, I'm not playing any type of card relative to the virginity hocum that some folks obsess about. The MOUNTED tom's "virginity" was already violated when it was outfitted with a receiver for a tom mount. You are free to prefer your drums configured to your wishes. I choose to have my mounted tom mounted to my bass drum even if I need to have the proper mounting hardware properly installed by a knowledgeable and competent person.
Dude, it's a players grade kit and I like to mount my one tom on a snare stand. I feel it's gives me more flexibility, especially when playing with larger bass drums, granted that doesn't apply here. I've grown accustomed to it. Tracking down period correct swivomatic hardware in working order and finding someone to "do it right" seems absurd to me.
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Old 09-27-2018, 04:45 PM
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I would never drill a drum (at least a valuable American-made drum like Rogers that's in decent shape) that wasn't drilled to begin with. I'm also a fan of virgin bass drums, and while my 1969 Rogers has a center-mounted double tom mount (Londoner config) that I currently mount the 12" on, I've actually used a snare stand before because I like the look and it allows me to mount it a little further to the left of the bass, and lower than I could get it with the swivo arm. As long as the tom is mounted on the snare stand properly, it shouldn't choke. Ideally I'd have a Rogers virgin bass (extremely rare) with a swivo floor stand, as others have suggested your set may have had originally.
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