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Mint condition late 50's Trowa piccolo snare drum

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From OddBall

All we need is a red one !!

not a problem :)

(although it is not as nice as yours)

cheers

Phil

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Posted on 12 years ago
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This is my favourite red Trowa/Tacton wrap. Sadly, this kit isn't mine:

[IMG]http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/Longfuse123/Trowa4_zps77f6b56d.jpg[/IMG]

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From Gerry

This is my favourite red Trowa/Tacton wrap. Sadly, this kit isn't mine:[IMG]http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/Longfuse123/Trowa4_zps77f6b56d.jpg[/IMG]

I think ,this the blue and the white were all in the same series. Sonor and Tromsa used these same wraps-----I think Deri too.

How many snares ,Grantro? ---------a lot. Too many, obviously ----probably enough to play a different one every day , as you went Around the World.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Man that snare and it's hardware is beautiful.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 12 years ago
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isn't Trowa East German made?

yep, Matt. ---out of the old Sonor factory. ---Gerry. the date on your drum? guess it is from the stamp that you mentioned? I'm still trying to work that out, for this one and a few others.I know that they switched from these lugs to; these ones http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=46304&d=1343337581 in about 1956. Those Trixon wires were rebuildable, the missing wire is insignificant; thanks, they helped aIot.------ not sure what you did for the snarewires, on your Piccalo; looks like Sonor wires, in there?

Posted on 12 years ago
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From calfskin

Gerry. the date on your drum? guess it is from the stamp that you mentioned? I'm still trying to work that out, for this one and a few others.I know that they switched from these lugs to; these ones http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=46304&d=1343337581 in about 1956. Those Trixon wires were rebuildable, the missing wire is insignificant; thanks, they helped aIot.------ not sure what you did for the snarewires, on your Piccalo; looks like Sonor wires, in there?

calfskin, yes the 1964 date is stamped on the inside of the shell.

The lugs on mine seem consistent with the 60s date:

http://www.drummuseum.hu/gyujtemeny_a.php?a=c&f=2&mid=34&cid=59

Snagged this snap from a German ebay ad...probably used these lugs in the 50s (early?):

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/Longfuse123/OldTrowaSnare_zps75099408.jpg

For snare wires I used 14" puresound:

[IMG]http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/Longfuse123/Trowa7_zpsf681efb8.jpg[/IMG]

Bought some M4 'eye bolts' and knurled thumb-nuts to match. Not ideal, but the shorter wires don't seem to choke the snare in any way - very responsive (what you'd expect from a parallel mechanism), so I'm not that bothered about finding exact-fit replacements.

The guy who owned that red kit I linked to very kindly snapped the snares from a Tacton he owned. Wires were cast in resin (as are yours?):

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/Longfuse123/DSCN1954_zpsb4f5e926.jpg

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Resin or some form of plastic. The idea is a good one as long as the quality control is along for the ride too. I have a few sets of these and the stud is imperfectly centred top to bottom on some, so it doesn't take much overtensioning to split the resin/plastic in two. The whole thing can be repaired but ; time, time. I made up a metal ended set , like instructions above . It works well and can take some extra stress. When these drums were current, there were probably lots of wires around. Somewhere, there is a cache of N.O.S. Trowa/Tacton snare wires.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From calfskin

late 50's Trowa piccolo snare drum

Phil, this snare is not from 50's --- Gerry is right about first half of 60's.

This eccentric-operated type of strainer started near after 1961-1962 --- together with gradual transition from short teardrop lugs to new long kind.

It was so good that this strainer was continued with Tacton until the early 80's.

From Philw

not a problem :)(although it is not as nice as yours)cheersPhil

Oh, God... An original snare stand!--- it's extremely rare!

George.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From calfskin

I think ,this the blue and the white were all in the same series. Sonor and Tromsa used these same wraps-----I think Deri too. How many snares ,Grantro? ---------a lot. Too many, obviously ----probably enough to play a different one every day , as you went Around the World.

Totally correct Deri called the wrap..red perloid..some greta drums on this post, really enjoyed reading all the great info..

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From Father-42

Phil, this snare is not from 50's --- Gerry is right about first half of 60's.This eccentric-operated type of strainer started near after 1961-1962 --- together with gradual transition from short teardrop lugs to new long kind.It was so good that this strainer was continued with Tacton until the early 80's.Oh, God... An original snare stand!--- it's extremely rare!George.

When did they stop using nickel, George? This drum is all nickel plated, so does it put it back to the early 60's? There is no date stamp inside of my drum but my shell seems to be the same. Very much like the Orange Sparkle drum but with a red stain.

Posted on 12 years ago
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