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Zyn Cymbals

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From sammypenn

The early Zyns of which I speak look very different in colour as the later Zyns,about the same colour as my 20s/30s Ks and have that same soft warm feel in your hands.unlike the hard cold feel of the post P.O.W.s made cymbals.The Standards are stamped "standard quality" and sometimes as well "made in England",under the usual Zyn stamp.the Super has "Super" over the Zyn stamp,very similar to the later stamps,in a curve towards the left of Zyn. Dion

Those early regular Zyns that you speak of, were an alloy very close to B-8. Someone I know from England had one of these very early ones analyzed by taking some shaving from inside of the bell hole and sending them to a university chemical laboratory for metallurgical quantitative analysis. I think it turned out to be B-12 or something like that. But you're right, the earlier ones were different. Then later on they switched to Nickel-Silver alloy.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Yes I remember now [almost]about that testing of the metal,perhaps we've been over all this already,or maybe I just read it on a forum somewhere??.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From sammypenn

Yes I remember now [almost]about that testing of the metal,perhaps we've been over all this already,or maybe I just read it on a forum somewhere??.

Yes, that was some time ago on Cymbalholic.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Thats the oneCool1

Posted on 15 years ago
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I have a brilliant set of 14" (i think) hi hats. i recived a thunder drum kit and a pair of hi hats included. They were green with oxidation. anyway i played these for 2 years. Last week i was just on google when i dicoverd that they were preety decent cymbals. so after school i came home and got the wire wool out. I made them look preety good! on the following weekend i asked my dad to get me some polish. he came back with a tube of 'Peek' polish and i spend 3 hours polishing. When i had finished they were so shiny i could see my self in them! I am currently in a bidding war with a guy for a 20" ride cymbal made by zyn!

Posted on 12 years ago
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Posted on 12 years ago
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Posted on 12 years ago
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I've got a Super Zyn 18" I really dig. Put 4 rivets in it. I play it at church as a ride. What is cool is that the sizzle dies away after each stroke almost completely. I think it's as good as quite a few A's I've played; but more interesting. It suits the studio well because it speaks quickly. The nickel ones (Zyn) are completely different.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Like all brands of cymbals, Zyns and Kruts( i can't see any difference between those two; perhaps way back in the 50's, when Krut was a Beverley brand ,there was) are variable. I suspect the sheet white brass that they were using went through some changes, over the years. There are also Symara and Kamala, listed in Carlton and John Grey catalogues and these seem to be turned out on the same production line. Therefore, it is hard to assess any of them from only one or two examples and additionally there were 2 distinct profiles that all seemed to come out with( perhaps Kamala was only the 2nd one). If you only have come across the 2nd one,it makes all of the 4 brands, so made, sound ultra trashy.

1) a standard profile much like an A.Zildjian , bearing the brands Symara,Krut,Zyn, Zyn 2 star, made out of sheet white brass.

2) a more conical profile ,looking like a Chinese straw hat. The manufacturing of these was the same as 1 , they were just a different shape. the sound was brighter, more oriental, shrill and with less sustain. they are marked the same as the above, with the additional brand Kamala.

Aside from these, there were also Zyn Standard, Super Zyns and Zyn 5 stars and these can be really , really good . All of the ones I have handled seem to be at least partially hand hammered and I still question whether the change to 5 star in both name and design/mfg., isn't due to the decision to purchase rotocast blanks from Italy, rather than cast and hammer in situ.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From calfskin

Like all brands of cymbals, Zyns and Kruts( i can't see any difference between those two; perhaps way back in the 50's, when Krut was a Beverley brand ,there was) are variable. I suspect the sheet white brass that they were using went through some changes, over the years. There are also Symara and Kamala, listed in Carlton and John Grey catalogues and these seem to be turned out on the same production line. Therefore, it is hard to assess any of them from only one or two examples and additionally there were 2 distinct profiles that all seemed to come out with( perhaps Kamala was only the 2nd one). If you only have come across the 2nd one,it makes all of the 4 brands, so made, sound ultra trashy. 1) a standard profile much like an A.Zildjian , bearing the brands Symara,Krut,Zyn, Zyn 2 star, made out of sheet white brass. 2) a more conical profile ,looking like a Chinese straw hat. The manufacturing of these was the same as 1 , they were just a different shape. the sound was brighter, more oriental, shrill and with less sustain. they are marked the same as the above, with the additional brand Kamala. Aside from these, there were also Zyn Standard, Super Zyns and Zyn 5 stars and these can be really , really good . All of the ones I have handled seem to be at least partially hand hammered and I still question whether the change to 5 star in both name and design/mfg., isn't due to the decision to purchase rotocast blanks from Italy, rather than cast and hammer in situ.

With the beginning of the "5 star" Super Zyn series, the Sper Zyn line was out-sourced to UFIP. The "golden age" for Super Zyns (the 50's) by then was officially over.

Posted on 12 years ago
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