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Forum: Vintage Drums 11-15-2019, 04:09 PM
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Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

It's perfectly fine to aspire to own a set just like one shown in a catalog. It's perfectly fine to use the catalogs as a resource to determine what you may have or not have, as long as you are...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-15-2019, 07:26 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 329
Posted By K.O.
Re: Slingerland/Gretsch

Some Gretsch drums had a cymbal bracket located there. My guess is that those holes in front of the badge were the original position for the holder and then it was moved to the "normal" position on...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-14-2019, 08:18 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 329
Posted By K.O.
Re: Slingerland/Gretsch

Those aren't extra holes on the bass drum, it's just missing the diamond shaped cymbal arm mount.

Sweet deal!
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-13-2019, 10:34 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

I guess I travel in the wrong circles as I don't seem to know any of these collectors. Probably just as well that I'm not participating, everyone is so busily trying to outcatalog each other that...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-13-2019, 01:41 PM
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Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

I don't think I or anyone said that the catalogs were "irrelevant". I did say they were often inaccurate as far as the description copy and/or illustrated item vs what Ludwig was actually shipping...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-12-2019, 10:25 AM
Replies: 49
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Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

$900 is crazy money for that drum given all the questionable issues and the rewrap. Even if it were all original with the "normal" disappearing spurs that price would be pushing it. I actually have a...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-11-2019, 11:11 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

My opinions on this stuff vary widely from yours.

First I'd say there is no such thing as a "jazzette" bass drum. What there are are 12x18 classic bass drums, some of which originally came as part...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-11-2019, 01:13 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

Well, logic dictates that the catalogs were in effect until superseded by a new one, generally every two years. Ludwig numbered them to somewhat coincide with the calendar but that wasn't quite...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-10-2019, 08:34 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

Choice of pearl finishes for a Jazzette doesn't pop up until the 1975 catalog. 1971 says choice of mahogany, maple, or Lacquer finishes and 1973 says choice of mahogany or lacquer finishes. In the...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-10-2019, 05:14 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

But, at the typical mom & pop music stores of the time there was usually not a lot of stock "on the floor" so if the set had to be ordered anyway that opened up the potential to easily tweak various...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-09-2019, 02:28 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

I agree with Mike, the catalog version may not have been available until 1966ish (the catalogs usually came out on the year before their cover date) but that bass drum size was available earlier and...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-07-2019, 07:06 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 935
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ok, here's another "funny" Jazzette (not)

Odd that it has the wrong spurs for a Jazzette bass, but they are doubly wrong as they aren't even the right type of gull wings for a 60's drum.
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-26-2019, 06:39 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 740
Posted By K.O.
Re: 1971 Ludwig Set Has Arrived!

The legs on Amazon are the newer style and are a bigger size. You would have to use the new brackets and probably enlarge the leg hole on your drum shell. Anyone with knowledge of Ludwigs would...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-21-2019, 11:13 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 852
Posted By K.O.
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-20-2019, 11:07 PM
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Views: 852
Posted By K.O.
Re: 1971 Ludwig... opinions?

Hollywood hardware would be relatively easy to find although 1400 cymbal stands can get pretty pricey (Ringo). If you want to go the Big Beat route then the Atlas cymbal stands from that era can be a...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-20-2019, 12:18 PM
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Posted By K.O.
Re: Vintage Ludwig 3-ply, 12x18 Bop!

I thought we'd agreed on "Jazztette" :)
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-20-2019, 12:11 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 155
Posted By K.O.
Re: How many 1970's 6.5x14 Black Beauty's made??

They came out around 1977 and continued until sometime in the early 1980s. Like Bun says Ludwig didn't keep sales records, but I'd think a safe estimate would be that they would have sold at least a...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-19-2019, 07:46 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 290
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ludwig B/O Green Sparkle Jazzfest on ebay

You don't see one of those everyday. Looks very nice. B/O badged Jazz Festivals seem somewhat rare in any color. Not impossible to find but it sure seems like by 1969 interest in having a matching...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-19-2019, 07:35 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 400
Posted By K.O.
Re: Wanna gold bald reading...

Never been to that site before. Just that one thread leaves me to believe they all might be smoking crack. Of course then there are all the various Facebook drum groups, misinformation seems to carry...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-15-2019, 09:48 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 852
Posted By K.O.
Re: 1971 Ludwig... opinions?

Snare would have been a Supra, very easy to locate, but yeah, should have one included at that price level.
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-14-2019, 11:30 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 352
Posted By K.O.
Re: Question on a 20x18 Ludwig F.T.

Cortex came in longer sheets than standard wrap so they could wrap an 18 or 20" drum with a single piece and just one seam.

I don't see anything hinky here.
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-12-2019, 10:43 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 852
Posted By K.O.
Re: 1971 Ludwig... opinions?

Looks Beautiful in the pictures, Not $1750 worth of beautiful but they do appear to be in above average in condition.

I don't wish to condone this sort of pricing but it is your money so if buying...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-12-2019, 10:32 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 580
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ludwig Standard 2

Looking good!
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-11-2019, 08:50 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 206
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ludwig 20x18'' Floor Tom

Normally the wrapped drums of that era were mahogany/poplar/maple but it seems that the bigger floor toms (18 and 20) often have mahogany interiors. Not sure of the reason for that but yours is not...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-10-2019, 12:09 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 377
Posted By K.O.
Re: Ludwig Standard

Beautiful Bronze Strata! It took me a long while to find a snare in that wrap for my collection. That cymbal arm bracket does seem oddly placed, lower than normal.

Those newer spurs are an...
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