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Forum: Vintage Drums Yesterday, 10:15 AM
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Posted By BosLover
Re: Caged Drummers

That's interesting. I was in Nashville two years ago for a couple of weeks and was in perhaps 15 or 20 bars and restaurants that had live music, and not a single drummer was in any sort of acrylic...
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-07-2019, 09:47 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 738
Posted By BosLover
Smile Re: Ludwig 75th Anniversary "Eagle" Kit for Sale on Ebay-Big Beat Configuration

I like the set, but I certainly understand your point. The attached silhouette is of a pigeon, the mighty symbol of New York City! Yes Sir It looks strikingly like the inlay on the drums.

Mark
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 03-16-2019, 08:46 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 383
Posted By BosLover
Re: Color Sound cymbals

Hmmmm:rolleyes: Not my cup of tea.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 03-16-2019, 07:36 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 383
Posted By BosLover
Re: Color Sound cymbals

I'm confused. I don't even see a link in you first post.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-29-2019, 09:06 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 964
Posted By BosLover
Re: New Ludwig Stuff for NAMM 2019

I specifically mentioned Joe Morello because of his year to year ranking in the Downbeat and Playboy jazz polls in the early '60s just before Ringo played Ludwigs on the Ed Sullivan program.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-29-2019, 04:44 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 964
Posted By BosLover
Re: New Ludwig Stuff for NAMM 2019

I love Ludwig as much as you and have been a fan of these drums since 1959, but I do wonder whether they would have survived if Joe Morello and especially Ringo had chosen other drums.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-24-2019, 06:17 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 964
Posted By BosLover
Re: New Ludwig Stuff for NAMM 2019

The two main purposes of the spurs is to stabilize the bass drum, especially if one or two toms are rack mounted, and to prevent forward creep. While those heavy duty spurs may not look graceful or...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-24-2019, 05:11 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 964
Posted By BosLover
Re: New Ludwig Stuff for NAMM 2019

I think the Black Oyster is also far from the original. It may be a great sounding drum, but I'll take a vintage original any day.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-24-2019, 03:56 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 508
Posted By BosLover
Re: Too Many Choices Not Enough Brain Cells

I guess it's different strokes, pun intended of course. When I was a young drummer in the late 50s, early 60s, all I dreamed about was a set of Ludwig Super Classics in WMP. Little did I know then...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-24-2019, 10:45 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 964
Posted By BosLover
Re: New Ludwig Stuff for NAMM 2019

I'm sure they will look great. The question, of course, is whether they sound and play the same. Our circa '62 pre serial Jazz Fest, purchased by my son from BEC, is mahogany/poplar/mahogany, of...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-24-2019, 10:36 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 508
Posted By BosLover
Re: Too Many Choices Not Enough Brain Cells

Even though the drums in the WMP kit you sold had different dates in the shells, overall it looked to be in extremely good condition. The $1,300 you got for them seems like a reasonable price for...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-20-2019, 05:17 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 405
Posted By BosLover
Re: Bass drum hoops Ludwig 64

Semi gloss has a bit more sheen than satin and are not the same. The next level of sheen below satin is egg shell, I believe.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-12-2019, 12:59 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

Yes I agree with regards to now, but that may likely change at some future date 25 years or more from now with a significantly different audience than today. They may remember fondly the drums of...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-11-2019, 10:26 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

Just because that earlier dynamic may have changed in no way means that drums created at a later date lose the right to be called vintage one day. Vintage is a subjective term. Based on age, quality,...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-11-2019, 04:02 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

Keep in mind this discussion is not really about present-day collectors but more about what might interest future collectors, and how future collectors might define vintage. It seems that many people...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-11-2019, 03:51 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

I didn't mean to imply that it was your subjectivity alone any more than its my subjectivity alone with regard to my feelings about modern A. Zildjian cymbals. My overall point is that arbitrary...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-11-2019, 01:37 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Talking Re: Vintage ends

And you see nothing in acoustic drums from the '60s and acoustic drums beyond your arbitrary cut-off date that bind them as well? Let's be honest about this. The cut off date you set up is completely...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-11-2019, 12:34 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

So based on your own definition, a 1963 Corvette really isn't vintage because its construction and design parameters are completely different than a car from 1915. I don't think you really mean that....
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-11-2019, 11:42 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

You are comparing apples to oranges. The real question should be whether a 2019 Corvette will be a desirable classic vintage vehicle 55 years from now like the 1963 is now.. We can't possibly know...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-10-2019, 07:08 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

That's correct. I'm 72. Vintage cymbals and vintage drums for me is anything built before 1970. It's all relative.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-10-2019, 11:04 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

The '80s saw a drastic downturn in quality? Do you really believe that modern DW Collectors series drums are inferior products? Or that Ludwig Black Beauties manufactured after your arbitrary cut...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-08-2019, 11:58 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 808
Posted By BosLover
Re: Any idea what these cymbals are?

They sure look like brass. But even if they are B20 bronze, why did you buy them? What will you use them for?
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-07-2019, 10:08 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

I have to disagree there. As a drummer who started playing as a young teen in 1959, in my experience drums, for the most part, and just about every piece of hardware, are manufactured better today...
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-07-2019, 09:57 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,041
Posted By BosLover
Re: Vintage ends

That cutoff is 34 years ago. In around 10-15 years middle aged drummers may well view the '80s and '90s as vintage. Its all relative.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-06-2019, 11:42 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 631
Posted By BosLover
Re: Ludwig WMP Help

I just looked at the images again. They look very clean. I'm thinking more in the $1300 and up range even with the mismatch of years.
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