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Forum: Vintage Drums 03-20-2019, 11:47 AM
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Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: RIP Hal Blaine

I went to the Musical Instrument Museum in Phoenix on Monday and saw one of Hal's sets displayed. It was listed as being from 1962, but the serial numbers I read indicated that most drums were from...
Forum: Vintage Drums 03-18-2019, 12:58 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 547
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: SSB1 Gretsch

I would place your drums more in the 1971 +/- time frame. The basis for that date is explained in the book. Please let me know what you think of it and send more information about your drums to me...
Forum: Vintage Drums 03-01-2019, 09:34 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 868
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Supraphonic S/N Question

Mark,

Thanks for buying the book. If you provided your information to me prior to December 2013, then it was included in the book. I continue to gather information to refine the conclusions I...
Forum: Vintage Drums 02-12-2019, 10:19 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 581
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: KCDrumDad In The House!

Thanks for being such a gracious host. I enjoyed talking and, of course, admiring your drums.
Forum: Vintage Drums 01-28-2019, 04:28 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 468
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Slingerland/ Gretsch snares

The Gretsch was a 1980s chrome over brass model. It originally had a Lightning throw, probably a fishtail butt and chrome lugs and hoops.
Forum: DRUM IMAGE GALLERY 01-28-2019, 10:04 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,106
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: 1948-52 WFL Aqua Sparkle

I was low on 22" heads, so I just grabbed what I could to put the set together once I cleaned it. I will get a suitable resonant side head soon.
Forum: Wanted to Buy 01-24-2019, 01:32 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 416
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Gretsch 4157

Color, condition?
Forum: DRUM IMAGE GALLERY 01-17-2019, 03:24 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,106
Posted By KCDrumDad
1948-52 WFL Aqua Sparkle

WFL Blue (Aqua) Sparkle
9x13 Tom
16x16 Floor Tom
12x22 New Yorker Style bass
5x14 Transition Badge Chrome over Brass Super Ludwig snare

Purchased bass and floor tom at an estate sale,...
Forum: Vintage Drums 12-28-2018, 01:53 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 538
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: 70's Ludwig History Help

Which version of the WMP is it? The stronger parallelogram pattern was introduced in the 1970s and is most likely to appear on a drum with that high of a serial number.
Forum: Vintage Drums 12-08-2018, 04:55 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 651
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Ludwig badges

In addition to the original 1970s badges that lacked serial numbers, there are newer replica/replacement badges that also lack serial numbers. Many of these are quite authentic looking, although...
Forum: Vintage Drums 12-07-2018, 01:13 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,208
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: 1968 Ludwig accent appraisal

Of the 546 wood shelled Standard drums from this era I have documented where an interior finish is recorded, 4 are clear, 444 are Granitone, 74 are Reso-Cote, 20 have wrap to match the exterior and 4...
Forum: Wanted to Buy 11-19-2018, 02:29 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 408
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Wanted zildjian gong

It is listed on Reverb with local pickup in Kansas City. Shipping is an issue with this, as I am not even sure how I would package it up. I may end up driving it to plexi69 in Colorado, as I am...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-12-2018, 10:56 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 832
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Ludwig Black Oyster Pearl Downbeat

I think that zenstat meant to say that the serial numbers in the 26000 range are from early 1964 +/- 6 months. I very much agree that down-to-the-month precision is not supportable when one only has...
Forum: Wanted to Buy 11-09-2018, 05:51 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 408
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Wanted zildjian gong

This one is 28" in diameter. Is that large enough?
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-23-2018, 10:19 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 547
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Anhy Gretsch Experts?

I thought the placement of the leg mounts was interesting. There do not seem to be extra holes from Gretsch mounts before the Rogers ones. I think that most floor toms I have seen do not put a leg...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-21-2018, 03:23 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 547
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Anhy Gretsch Experts?

I saw pictures of that drum a few days ago. I have documented a small number of Gretsch drums which would normally have had but lacked the silver sealer, but most are concentrated in a different...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-10-2018, 09:23 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 568
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Timeline for Ludwig Baseball Bat Muffler on toms

The small round knob mufflers are found on many marching drums made during the baseball bat era.
Forum: Vintage Drums 09-26-2018, 12:48 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 3,722
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: 1960's chrome Gretsch snare identification???

I have a few more reports of drums between 55000 and 65000. Serial number 56595 does not have the knurling. Serial numbers 57158, 58105 and 61523 have the knurling.
Forum: Vintage Drums 09-23-2018, 10:47 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 924
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Gretsch 4105 6 lug aluminum questions

K.O. is right. The early aluminum snares used the 4105 model number that was already in use on a wood shelled 6 lug snare. Eventually Gretsch started using model numbers 4106 (which had previously...
Forum: Vintage Drums 09-18-2018, 09:55 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 924
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Gretsch 4105 6 lug aluminum questions

The lowest serial numbers I have seen on Gretsch Aluminum snares are in the 89000 range. That would be in about the 1967 +/- time frame. Your drum is likely from the 1967-1968 time period. Note...
Forum: Vintage Drums 08-29-2018, 02:13 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 685
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Value on Gretsch round badge Rock and Roll

Something looks a bit wrong on the toms. The tone control knobs should be facing the drummer, with one tom designed to be on the left and the other designed to be on the right. I know you just put...
Forum: Vintage Drums 08-09-2018, 10:17 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,795
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Price check 1966 ludwig black oyster snare

I looked into shipping from the UPS Store which is a few blocks away. It was cost prohibitive for me. Interesting deal for a local.
Forum: Vintage Drums 08-07-2018, 02:34 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,795
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Price check 1966 ludwig black oyster snare

Thanks guys. I am very pleased with it. Of course, I can't get rid of the Supra, because it came with the set.

I had just sold a different set, which freed up funds for the Pioneer purchase. ...
Forum: Vintage Drums 08-06-2018, 12:03 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,795
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Price check 1966 ludwig black oyster snare

I am very happy with it. I will need to clean it along with the set which I acquired last year just before going to the Chicago Show in May. The set came with a Supraphonic.
Forum: Vintage Drums 07-13-2018, 04:57 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 781
Posted By KCDrumDad
Re: Value of Date Stamp 1969 Acrolite

I see it on Reverb now. GLWS
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