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Mystery Turkish(?) Arabic Stamp - Not an Old K Con
eBay seller says this is a K Constantinople but I'm not so sure. Has anyone here ever seen this stamp before? It does not match even the very old early 1900's or prior K Con stamps that I've seen examples of. But it does appear Arabic.
Lookin for some info on this one. |
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ooops, here's the photo
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and here's the rest of it. Looks to be old B20 bronze.
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Well it`s Navy, and they have a Base in Turkey for over 60 years now.
Drumaholic says there are or were a few Zildjian wannabee`s in Turkey. |
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see: http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...light=ersatz+k
You may need to reorient yours to see it is more of a match for the Ersatz K stamp on the left of Drumaholic's comparison than the earliest K Zildjian Constantinople stamp he shows there. |
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You nailed it Zen.........
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The one on the left is most likely your stamp,...it was struck differently and probably a duplicate die,...I see everything in it as in yours. Yours is very faded and some of it is no longer there.
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So here we are with some annotated pictures. I don't have an existing naming convention to use, so I'm making up names for the pictorial elements. Here is the comparison annotated
http://black.net.nz/cym2016/ersatz1.jpg and the original stamp from the thread which is different in some details from the one Drumaholic used, but I've shown some common pictorial elements http://black.net.nz/cym2016/ersatz2.png Then the one you are asking about with some pictorial elements shown http://black.net.nz/cym2016/ersatz3.jpg and finally a K Zildjian Constantinople stamp showing some of the common pictorial elements it shares with the K Con example Drumaholic gave. http://black.net.nz/cym2016/ersatz4.jpg I have only given a brief sketch of what actually gets done to do proper artifact analysis using pictorial attributes. Hopefully you see what I mean now. The stamp impression you are asking about isn't all that clear and the photo is quite small. If we had a better and bigger photo we might be able to see a bit more. |
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