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yyc067 08-18-2019 07:35 PM

Help with wrap color
 
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Hey guys, this is my first MIJ vintage drum purchase. I can't believe the wealth of knowledge on this site. That being said - can anyone help me with the exact color name of this wrap? I've searched all over the forum, and cannot find an exact match. I'm thinking it's either a dark blue oyster, or maybe a blue swirl.

Any help would be appreciated.

vyacheslav 08-18-2019 08:34 PM

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Welcome to the MIJ world!

Ludwig's "Standard" series had a similar wrap called "Blue Strata", but I'm not sure if that lingo was also used on MIJ Drums at the time.

DrumBob 08-18-2019 11:02 PM

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I believe it was called Peacock Pearl. MIJ drums had some totally cool finishes you didn't see on American drums.

yyc067 08-18-2019 11:21 PM

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Thanks DrumBob, but I just googled that color, and my wrap looks nothing like any of the pics showing peacock pearl. I do agree it's probably a 'one off' that was used.

I forgot to mention in my first post, if it helps at all - the kit is a Bollero, made by Pearl.

Kenwood 08-18-2019 11:23 PM

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Hello yyc067
I think your drums are most likely Pearl made

The earliest Pearl chart I could pull up so far
was from 1968 and does not include that finish

I think I have seen that finish before used on a Hoshino K built kit
The trouble there is Hoshino K for as many thousands of drum kits they produced
There is unfortunately very little info on them catalogs, color charts, ect.

yyc067 08-18-2019 11:25 PM

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Yes Kenwood, it is a Bollero kit, made by Pearl.

Kenwood 08-18-2019 11:40 PM

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I put the two together and It seems that in the sample pic the bands of darker shaded strata are wider than the more uniform bands on your drums

yyc067 08-18-2019 11:48 PM

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They are very close, the shade of blue is almost spot on!

Kenwood 08-19-2019 12:07 AM

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yyc067 Yes they are close
I have Hoshino K made kits in my collection
all with similar uniform strata pattern
in red, green, and tiger eye your blue looks the same
nothing is set in solid stone with these little kits
I would bet the same wrap was used by more than one builder

idrum4fun 08-19-2019 12:14 AM

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Hi yyco67!

Attached is a picture of wraps offered by Pearl in their 1969 catalog. Your wrap might be a batch variation of the "Blue Grain Pearl".

-Mark

yyc067 08-19-2019 12:29 AM

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Kenwood, the pattern definitely looks strata, I think I’ll be happy calling it blue strata.

Mark, thanks for the color swatch, but from what the previous owner told me, the kit is from the mid 60’s.

idrum4fun 08-19-2019 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by yyc067 (Post 450357)
Kenwood, the pattern definitely looks strata, I think Iíll be happy calling it blue strata.

Mark, thanks for the color swatch, but from what the previous owner told me, the kit is from the mid 60ís.

Actually, your kit is a 1968-69, as evidenced by the Rogers-style mufflers in the toms. These were used for only 1-2 years, beginning in 1968. I had a 1968 Whitehall (Pearl) kit with all the same hardware as your kit.

-Mark

yyc067 08-19-2019 01:00 AM

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Well sweet... thanks Mark. That really narrows it down.
So, it’s a ‘69 Bollero in Blue Grain Pearl.

Like I said before, the wealth of knowledge here is incredible!

DrumBob 08-19-2019 07:01 AM

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I meant blue grain pearl, but had seen a similar wrap that someone called peacock pearl, so that's what I thought it was.

idrum4fun 08-19-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DrumBob (Post 450366)
I meant blue grain pearl, but had seen a similar wrap that someone called peacock pearl, so that's what I thought it was.

Hi DrumBob!

I was going to comment about Peacock Pearl not being correct. I'm attaching a picture of my Lido Supreme snare drum, wrapped in Peacock Pearl.

-Mark

Kenwood 08-19-2019 03:39 PM

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Hello Mark I did see the blue grain pearl when bringing up the color charts
to me the differences were a little too distinct to be a batch variation
Though It sure does look closer to the BGP than it does anything else shown
I was wondering, could it be possible it was just an uncatalogued wrap for Pearl that was used there?

OddBall 08-19-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenwood (Post 450353)
I put the two together and It seems that in the sample pic the bands of darker shaded strata are wider than the more uniform bands on your drums

That's it. Different lot number or something but that's it. Look at the snare.

yyc067 08-19-2019 11:14 PM

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So... the general consensus is that IT IS blue grain pearl???

idrum4fun 08-20-2019 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by yyc067 (Post 450402)
So... the general consensus is that IT IS blue grain pearl???

Yes, I believe that would be the consensus!

-Mark


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