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vyacheslav 04-27-2018 12:38 AM

Removing double sided tape residue on a bare shell-Will not be re-wrapping
 
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Greetings,

I know we've had multiple "How do you remove old glue/residue" threads. This one is a bit different. This is a 5.5" x 14" snare drum. I stripped off the wrap and am going to use a natural, clear coat poly finish. It's a cheaper drum, but the outside and inside look fine, plenty of wood grain showing, no large patches or knots in the grain etc.

To make things even more challenging, this particular wrap was held on with double sided tape not only vertically where the wrap "starts" on the shell, but it was also held on horizontally by a strip near EACH bearing edge, all the way around the shell! I got this drum for cheap, but had I known about this, I never would've bought the darn thing! This will make for a lot of extra work, and I will probably invent a few new curse words too!

Because I won't be re-wrapping, I need to be careful how I approach this project. Right now I am using the Nail Polish Remover/Acetone method along with a plastic putty knife. It's working, but it is VERY slow going. I've tried Goof Off in the past and I know that many members here swear by it, but it has honestly never worked that great for me, and I have always preferred Lighter Fluid (on wrap) or Acetone (for everything else). I've also had good luck with "De-Solv-It Contractor's Solvent " (image below), but it can be fairly hard to find. If I can find some, I will pick up some tomorrow. I also have Paint Thinner (the hard stuff) that I will try tomorrow when I can be outside. I know some others have said WD-40 or a spray lubricant works too. I am hesitant to use this method, because lubricants are designed to penetrate, and I think it would leave a residue and soak into the shell and not fully "dry". Again, it will be clear coated, so I don't want it to turn the shell darker or possibly react with the poly.

Also, I've tried sanding off the residue in the past, and it simply won't work. It just gums up the sander (and doesn't really remove the residue anyway). Plus, I can't use a coarse grade of sandpaper, because I don't want the shell to get scratched up. In the past, I've actually had success with putting wood filler on the tape residue area, and then sanding it off. It worked very well, but again, that was with very coarse sandpaper for a shell I was going to be wrapping. Also, it was just in one small area, not all the way around the shell. However, it really did work. I think it's because the residue had bonded with the wood filler and became part of the wood filler, so when I sanded off the wood filler, the residue came right off with it, because they were "one". It didn't gum up the sander at all; it was just like sanding off plain wood filler.

Because the wood filler trick worked so well, I was thinking about doing something similar. What if I roll the shell around in my yard, so that the tape residue picks up dirt and debris from my yard and isn't sticky anymore. I also have some leftover sand from an outdoor project. I could roll the shell on the sand! Would that be crazy, or do you think that might actually make it easier to get off, either with Acetone/De-Solv-It/Paint Thinner or with fine grit sandpaper (220 or above-I'll be sanding the outside of the shell to prep for finishing)? I hesitate to use wood filler, because for one, that would be a LOT of wood filler to use, and also it does "stain" the shell, even where it has been sanded off. In the past, if any wood filler got on the shell even .00001 of an inch outside the tape residue area, it would "stain" the shell a light yellowish-orange. Again, in the past, I didn't care, because the drum was always going to be re-wrapped.

Do you have any suggestions, keeping in mind that :

A) I need to keep the outside of the shell blemish free because it is going to be clear coated (not wrapped) and

B) I do not like Goof Off-it has never met my needs.

Thanks for your help!

V

J!m 04-27-2018 06:24 AM

Re: Removing double sided tape residue on a bare shell-Will not be re-wrapping
 
The only solvent I use on solid wood is acetone. Not nail polish remover as that has other crap added to it. Just the best acetone you can get. Reagent grade preferred. Try an automotive paint store or a Sherwin Williams store. SW no. 9 acetone is reagent grade.

Otherwise use denatured alcohol on ply drums. This is the only thing I used on exotic boards to see what it will look like with a clear coat.

Tough going but if it’s that much trouble, call Keller or Precision Drum and have a new shell cut.

jccabinets 04-27-2018 06:38 AM

Re: Removing double sided tape residue on a bare shell-Will not be re-wrapping
 
So you have a shell with tape residue in some areas and polyurethane finish in others. I would not roll it in the yard or pour sand on it. You have tried a few things so all I can think of for now is to try the paint remover, if that dont work then I would try some lacquer thinner in a small area to see what it does. If the finish is a polyurethane then the lacquer thinner will have a hard time dissolving it. But you cant assume it is polyurethane, it could be regular wood varnish, oil or water based and if thats the case the lacquer thinner would more than likely remove that type of finish which wouldn't be the end of the world since you are applying a new finish in the end.
Since your going to clear coat the shell you might try to soften the residue with one of the products that you mentioned and use a razor blade to scrape off the residue. Then sand the entire shell with some 320 and then clear coat. Again this is assuming the finish is a polyurethane because that stuff is very hard/tough.
Good luck let us know how it come out (photos).

OddBall 04-27-2018 08:34 AM

Re: Removing double sided tape residue on a bare shell-Will not be re-wrapping
 
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I use 5F5 on wood to remove anything. It will take anything off wood except a screw or nail.

OddBall 04-27-2018 08:40 AM

Re: Removing double sided tape residue on a bare shell-Will not be re-wrapping
 
I strongly recommend not using a sanding machine. Turning the drum and holding the paper will give that flawless finish. It's round and your paper should conform to the curve.

CompactDrums 04-27-2018 09:03 AM

Re: Removing double sided tape residue on a bare shell-Will not be re-wrapping
 
Sanding is the easiest way... yes it gums up the paper. You might as well use coarser paper because you have a lot of sanding ahead of you before that shell is anywhere near ready for clearcoat.

grantro 06-27-2018 04:50 PM

Re: Removing double sided tape residue on a bare shell-Will not be re-wrapping
 
How did you make out? What worked for you? I`m curious because I am in the same predicament...

Cheers


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