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Chromeo 08-12-2018 09:26 PM

14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
Hi all. Anyone out there know of any cymbals that are just under 15" in diameter? 14 and 6/8ths of an inch (or 37.5cm)
I purchased a Super Zyn that was advertised as 15", but it's just under 15. I'm not going to return it because I like the cymbal a lot. The problem is that it's not the correct size to match up with another 15" cymbal that I have. I wanted the cymbal to be a Top hi Hat. Right now I'm using it as a crash, but I would prefer to be using it as a Hi Hat. I just need to find another cymbal that's the same size and I don't know where to look.
Any ideas please let me know.
It's a great cymbal. It looks a bit like an old K and weighs just around 700 grams, so it's light for a 15".
Thanks.

Chromeo 08-12-2018 09:32 PM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
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Here's a few photos. Cool cymbal!

Chromeo 08-12-2018 09:35 PM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
Well, I tried to upload 3 photos, but apparently the third photo was too large and the site couldn't handle it. There's two photos there anyway. One of the trademark and the other showing the lathing which looks like an old K in the way the grooves are far apart and get tighter towards the edge, but more importantly - where can I find a cymbal to match this one for size?
Thanks for any help.

vyacheslav 08-12-2018 10:26 PM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
Hey Chromeo,

Are you against using it as a hi-hat because it's just a little bit smaller?


Max Roach used to use a 13" on top and 14" on the bottom.

One of my favorite hi-hats that I gig with for jazz is a Dream Bliss Top and and a 60's A. Zildjian bottom. The Zildjian is exactly 14", but the Dream is a bit undersized at 13-3/4" (by 1/4 of an inch, much like yours). I really dig those hats, and it doesn't bother me at all that the top is a little smaller than the bottom. In fact, I like it because it eliminates air lock and the cymbals can't rotate out of the "sweet spot" like they can (and usually) do.

My advice is to try it and have an open mind. Let your ears do the judging and not your eyes. Remember, even though the size difference is 1/4", when the cymbals are centered on a stand in playing position, the difference will only be 1/8" all the way around. That's not much.

Chromeo 08-12-2018 10:38 PM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
I've used a similar type mismatched pair before with a smaller top hat and the bottom hat ended up cracking. It was a thin bottom and I've never cracked a cymbal before, so I put the crack down to it being mismatched. It might have had a tiny crack when I got it that got worse, I'm not sure, but I vowed not to use mismatched sizes again for hats after that. I don't want to cut a cymbal down to 14" and 6/8ths of an inch either as that would take away from the overall shape of the cymbal profile. I'm really just hoping there's another 14.5/8" cymbal out there that I can use.
Cheers for the reply.

funkypoodle 02-07-2019 07:50 AM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
Every time I see imperial cymbal sizes listed in fractions I assume they are metric sized. I'm getting 37.14 cm, but it could be 37 cm. A 1.4 mm variation is pretty tiny and I had to convert a fraction into a decimal value before conversion tables would work, which isn't exactly accurate. 1/8 of an inch is a big fraction compared to millimeter increments. Do you have access to metric measuring tools?

Chromeo 02-07-2019 08:52 AM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
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Originally Posted by funkypoodle (Post 443655)
Every time I see imperial cymbal sizes listed in fractions I assume they are metric sized. I'm getting 37.14 cm, but it could be 37 cm. A 1.4 mm variation is pretty tiny and I had to convert a fraction into a decimal value before conversion tables would work, which isn't exactly accurate. 1/8 of an inch is a big fraction compared to millimeter increments. Do you have access to metric measuring tools?

Of course I have access to metric measuring tools. I prefer the metric system. I'm from Europe. I don't like the imperial system., But this is how people measure cymbals.
You don't happen to have a cymbal that size, do you?

woody1953 02-07-2019 09:22 AM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
You could always have someone trim the circumference of a 15" cymbal to match the Zyn. Very inexpensive service.

Chromeo 02-07-2019 09:31 AM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
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Originally Posted by woody1953 (Post 443659)
You could always have someone trim the circumference of a 15" cymbal to match the Zyn. Very inexpensive service.

I have another metric sized cymbal that's just over 15". It has and edge crack about 10mm long. (quarter of an inch or so) I just don't know anyone who cuts cymbals down.

Gilnar 02-07-2019 01:38 PM

Re: 14 and 6/8ths of an inch Cymbal???
 
I do.

Well, my father does. But I suppose it would be a bit pricey to ship even within EU because of that. I think that if you search basically for anyone who works with metal, you'll get what you need.


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